Legislature(2003 - 2004)

02/05/2004 03:03 PM House HES

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HB 337-ANATOMICAL GIFTS REGISTRY                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 2154                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON announced  that the  final  order of  business                                                                    
would be  CS FOR HOUSE  BILL NO. 337(STA), "An  Act relating                                                                    
to  anatomical  donor  registries,  to  an  anatomical  gift                                                                    
awareness fund, to an anatomical  gift awareness program, to                                                                    
motor  vehicle  licenses  and registrations,  and  to  state                                                                    
identification cards."   Chair  Wilson reminded  the members                                                                    
that the committee had a hearing  on this bill last week and                                                                    
there was  agreement that there  needed [to be  some changes                                                                    
in the  language].  The sponsor  of the bill has  drafted an                                                                    
amendment  to address  the concerns  of  the committee,  she                                                                    
said.  Chair  Wilson asked Mr. Hilyard  to present Amendment                                                                    
1.                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 2110                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HEATH  HILYARD,  Staff   to  Representative  Lesil  McGuire,                                                                    
Alaska  State Legislature,  presented an  amendment to  CSHB
337(STA) for  Representative McGuire, sponsor,  and answered                                                                    
questions  from  the members.    He  told the  committee  he                                                                    
believes  [Amendment  1]  will  clarify  [and  correct]  any                                                                    
questions the members had during the last meeting.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON told Mr. Hilyard  that she would like the three                                                                    
portions of Amendment 1 to be handled as part A, B, and C.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HILYARD began  discussion of  Amendment  1, which  read                                                                    
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     TECHNICAL AMENDMENT                                                                                                        
     (Page 3, Lines 30-31)                                                                                                      
     (b) The purposes  of the fund [IS]  are to promote                                                                     
     gifts  under  AS  13.50.010  -  13.50.090  and  to                                                                         
     administer the donation  program established under                                                                         
     AS 13.50.150.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     CONCEPTUAL AMENDMENT                                                                                                       
     (Page 4, Lines 12-14)                                                                                                      
     (4)  "motor   vehicle  document"  means   a  motor                                                                         
     vehicle  registration,  a   driver's  license,  an                                                                         
     instruction permit, or  state identification, or a                                                                       
     renewal of the registration, license, or permit;                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     CONCEPTUAL AMENDMENT                                                                                                       
     (Page 4, Lines 15-17)                                                                                                      
     (5)  "procurement  organization" [MEANS  A  PERSON                                                                         
     LICENSED, ACCREDITED,  OR APPROVED UNDER  THE LAWS                                                                         
     OF A  STATE FOR THE PROCUREMENT,  DISTRIBUTION, OR                                                                         
     STORAGE OF BODY PARTS]  means an organization that                                                                       
     has   been  designated   by   the  United   States                                                                       
     Department  of   Health  and  Human   Services  to                                                                       
     coordinate activities for  the procurement of body                                                                       
     parts, for any portion of this state;                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HILYARD pointed  out that [part A] which  is a technical                                                                    
amendment  is intended  to correct  a  grammatical error  on                                                                    
page  3,  lines  30  and  31.    He  said  Terry  Bannister,                                                                    
Legislative  Legal and  Research Services,  pointed out  the                                                                    
necessity for the  change.  The wording is  changed from the                                                                    
"purpose" of  the fund  "is" to the  "purposes" of  the fund                                                                    
"are", Mr. Hilyard said.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON said  in response  to Representative  Seaton's                                                                    
question as  to the  handling of the  amendment, that  it is                                                                    
her  intention  to handle  these  changes  as one  amendment                                                                    
unless the members have a problem with a portion of it.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 2068                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. HILYARD told  the members that the next  change [part B]                                                                    
is  a  conceptual  [change]  because   it  may  need  to  be                                                                    
rephrased  once  the  bill goes  to  Legislative  Legal  and                                                                    
Research Services  for a  revision.   This change  refers to                                                                    
page 4,  lines 12 through  14, where motor  vehicle document                                                                    
[adds]  "or state  identification."   He said  that language                                                                    
had been  accidentally omitted  and Terry  Bannister pointed                                                                    
that out  and suggested  it be included  to ensure  the bill                                                                    
included all forms of motor vehicle documents.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 2047                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. HILYARD  commented that  [part C]  is also  a conceptual                                                                    
amendment which goes  to the heart of  the questions members                                                                    
discussed at the last meeting.   On page 4, lines 15 through                                                                    
17 which reads as follows:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     (5)  "procurement  organization"  means  a  person                                                                         
     licensed, accredited,  or approved under  the laws                                                                         
     of a  state for the procurement,  distribution, or                                                                         
     storage of body parts;                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HILYARD explained  that [part  C] deletes  the language                                                                    
currently in CSHB  337(STA), Version U, and  replaces it and                                                                    
returns it to  the original language that was  in Version I.                                                                    
He added that Version I was  the first version that was read                                                                    
across  the  House.    What  the  bill  will  says  is  that                                                                    
[procurement organization]  "means an organization  that has                                                                    
been designated  by the United  States Department  of Health                                                                    
and  Human   Services  to  coordinate  activities   for  the                                                                    
procurement of body  parts, for any portion  of this state."                                                                    
He  told the  members  that this  wording  has been  cleared                                                                    
through Legislative Legal  and Research Services, LifeCenter                                                                    
Northwest, and the  [Department of Administration], Division                                                                    
of Motor Vehicles.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 2012                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON moved  Amendment 1.   There  being no                                                                    
objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1985                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RAY  VIDIC testified  in support  of HB  337.   He told  the                                                                    
committee that he has a friend  who has been on dialysis for                                                                    
ten years.  This bill  is important because anytime there is                                                                    
an  increase   in  donations,  there   is  a   reduction  of                                                                    
suffering, and  whoever receives an organ  has their quality                                                                    
of life  improved, he said.   There  are many people  in the                                                                    
state of  Alaska and  the nation  who are  suffering because                                                                    
they are in need of an organ.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. VIDIC gave a glimpse of  his friend John's life.  He has                                                                    
been  on  dialysis  for  ten   years,  has  had  last  rites                                                                    
pronounced  on him  twice.   He  receives  dialysis at  home                                                                    
three times  per week because  he chooses to live  in Juneau                                                                    
with  his family,  rather than  [moving] somewhere  where it                                                                    
can be  done for free.   Since the dialysis is  done Monday,                                                                    
Wednesday,  and Friday,  there is  a longer  period of  time                                                                    
between Friday and  Monday and during that time  he gains 20                                                                    
pounds, he  explained.  He has  a special insert in  his arm                                                                    
for drawing  the blood in and  out.  That insert  has had to                                                                    
be moved twice, he said.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1940                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. VIDIC told of  two months of John's life.   He was up in                                                                    
Anchorage  and  had to  have  seven-eighths  of his  thyroid                                                                    
removed because  of a condition  that results from  being on                                                                    
dialysis.  He  was also bleeding rectally so he  also had to                                                                    
have  a colonoscopy.    Because of  his  weakened state  the                                                                    
doctor  punctured his  colon and  had to  have an  emergency                                                                    
surgery  where  he  had  to  have  an  [incision]  from  his                                                                    
breastplate down  past his navel.   On  his way home  in the                                                                    
Anchorage airport  his stitches burst  and had to  return to                                                                    
the hospital.   His son, who is 14 years  old, had to handle                                                                    
the 911 call.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. VIDIC told  the members that this guy is  a fighter.  In                                                                    
ten years  he hasn't complained.   His  life is good  and he                                                                    
has his  son, something  to live  for, Mr.  Vidic said.   He                                                                    
said that  the committee's work will  decrease the suffering                                                                    
of so many people like him.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. VIDIC  told the  members that  in his  conversation with                                                                    
his friend, he found that while  John has been on a list for                                                                    
10 years;  he has no idea  who manages the list  or where he                                                                    
is on the list.   He is too busy trying to  stay alive.  Mr.                                                                    
Vidic summarized his comments by  saying that if one life is                                                                    
saved  because of  this legislation,  then the  members have                                                                    
done a wonderful thing.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1846                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOLF commented  that  Mr. Vidic's  testimony                                                                    
hits home  to him  because his wife's  cousin needs  a liver                                                                    
transplant.  He  added that she has been on  a list for over                                                                    
12 years.  This is a good bill, he said.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON encouraged  [the members  and public]  to have                                                                    
their blood drawn and to register to be a donor.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1799                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO  asked if  there  are  age or  disease                                                                    
limitations on being a donor.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1752                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. VIDIC  replied that he  understands the  limitations are                                                                    
set by the  organ procurement providers.   Hospitals will do                                                                    
a battery  of tests  both on  the individual's  physical and                                                                    
psychological  health  to  see  if  the  donation  would  be                                                                    
acceptable.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1752                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  announced for  the record  that Representative                                                                    
Cissna is on-line.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1742                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA  commented  that  her  late  husband,                                                                    
Stan, had the kidney of a nine  year old girl and it was the                                                                    
healthiest part  of his  body.   It gave  him nine  years of                                                                    
life  that  was  very  rich,   she  said.    She  asked  for                                                                    
clarification on the two ways in  which a person gets on the                                                                    
[organ donor]  registry.   One is getting  a blood  test and                                                                    
signing up,  and the other  is to register through  the DMV.                                                                    
She asked if one is more binding than the other.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1677                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  explained that a  person can get a  blood test                                                                    
and  when the  registry is  looking for  a match,  then that                                                                    
individual  would be  contacted.   This [procedure]  is with                                                                    
respect to live  donation of a kidney, for  instance.  Chair                                                                    
Wilson clarified that  this bill is really  dealing with the                                                                    
situation  where   there  has  been  a   death  [through  an                                                                    
accident]  and   the  troopers   could  identify   that  the                                                                    
[deceased] person is a donor  because of the notation on the                                                                    
person's driver's license.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA asked if  the notation on the driver's                                                                    
license is as binding as the  donor who has gone through the                                                                    
blood test and has gone to the registry.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1609                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. HILYARD responded that  in conversations with LifeCenter                                                                    
Northwest  and DMV  he found  that the  standard is  that if                                                                    
there are two next of kin  that will swear an affidavit that                                                                    
there had been  a change in the  individual's willingness to                                                                    
be an  organ donor,  then that would  be grounds  to contest                                                                    
the  organ  donation.   Mr.  Hilyard  said  he was  told  by                                                                    
LifeCenter  Northwest that  that  situation  does not  occur                                                                    
that  frequently.   Many times  once  the organ  procurement                                                                    
organization,  such as  LifeCenter  Northwest,  has had  the                                                                    
ability  to  counsel with  the  family  that frequently  the                                                                    
organ  donation   intent  is  upheld  and   the  organs  are                                                                    
harvested.   Mr.  Hilyard pointed  out that  the information                                                                    
from the  DMV is  just being  listed in  the registry.   The                                                                    
registry does not list their  physical qualifications or any                                                                    
medical history.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1555                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  pointed out  that it is  important to  know as                                                                    
soon as possible if there  will be an organ donation because                                                                    
there is a difference in how the body is taken care of.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1542                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  moved to report CSHB  337(HES) out of                                                                    
committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal  notes.  There being  no objection, CSHB
337(HES)  was  reported  from House  Health,  Education  and                                                                    
Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                

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